BHAGAVAD GEETA: Chapter-2-5. / 12 post-34. Swami Advayanandaji.

Chinmaya Mission: 

Chinmaya Geeta Chanting competition was held at Chinmaya Mission Ahmedabad, dedicated participant, showcased remarkable devotion and recitation skills. 

This event was conducted with meticulous precision, and participants from various backgrounds gathered to exhibit their profound knowledge of the sacred Geeta scriptures. 

The atmosphere resonated with spiritual energy as contestants competed fervently, each aiming to secure a spot in the upcoming rounds. 

The competition marked a significant step in the journey to a deeper understanding of the Bhagavad Gita, fostering an environment of spiritual growth and unity among participants.

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BHAGAVAD GEETA 

Chapter - 2

Discourse – 2 (72 Slogas)

“Yoga of the SUPREME SELF”

Sri Veda Vyasaji

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Friday, 20 Oct 2023. 06:25.

Post - 34.

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2.4 THE ELIMINATION OF GRIEF

(Slogas 11-15, 5 No.)

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Slogam - 12: Time Scale is for the Body, not Spirit.

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Slogam - 12: Time Scale is for the Body, not Spirit.

1 Na tu eva aham jaatu na aasam   = Not at any time (in the past), indeed, was I not;

2 na tvam na ime janaadhipaah;   = nor you, nor these rulers of men,

3 na cha eva na bhavishyaamah   = and nor ever shall we cease to be, 

4 sarve vayam atah param.   = every one of us, from this point forwards.

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Birth and death are defining points for the existence of the Jeeva, the individual self 

or the ego-self. Our true Self is eternal, and independent of the existence of the body. This is 

why it is so futile to grieve over the “dead or the living”, as mentioned in slogam - 11.

The Use of the “Double Negative”:

The reason for this is more cultural than a device to enhance meaning. In Indian 

languages, the double negative is a very common form of expression. It sounds awkward in 

English, but is considered very tasteful in the Indian languages. Afrikaans (in South Africa) 

also makes use of the double negative – “Ek kan nie klaar nie.” The Irish have something 

even stranger – “It was not me, it wasn’t.”


Thus, instead of “I always exist”, we find the Indians prefer to say, “There never was 

a time when I did not exist.” In the same way, death is referred to as, “Nor shall I cease to 

be”, another double negative.

The Time Scale for Existence

Two periods when the body does not exist, but the Self does, are highlighted:

1 i)

 The time prior to our birth, when the body was not there but the Self was. 

This applies to every living creature – you, I and even the King is no exception!

3-4 ii) 

The second period is the time after our death, when the body falls off but the 

Self still remains. 


So who is being born and who is dying? – no one, only the body, both the subtle and 

the gross body. What is causing the grief then? – our attachment or identification to both 

these bodies. The grief is felt in the subtle body. The gross body may trigger it.

By de-emphasizing the moments of birth and death, Sri Krishna draws our attention 

to our spiritual being and takes our mind away from our material body. In the context of the 

Geeta, Sri Krishna is trying to take Arjuna’s mind away from giving too much importance to 

death (his own as well as his kith and kin’s). In the war context, death is nothing to worry 

about – it is as common as autumnal leaves falling from a tree! 

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Next

Slogam - 13: Passing of Childhood, Youth and Old Age

To be continued

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###OPINION: PEOPLE OF BHARATHAM POSITIVE:

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1. SANATANA DHARMA, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS HINDUISM IS ETERNAL, WHOLE UNIVERSE IS EXISTING IN THIS TRUTH

2.  EVER EXISTING

3.  THERE IS NO SPACE FOR ADHARMA

4. ALL DEMONIC ELEMENTS DEMOLISHED BY DHARMA

5. SO NO QUESTION EVIL ASURIC DEMONIC FRAGMENT'S BARKING, THEY WILL BE   ULTIMATELY BURNED AND DESTROYED BY NATURE.

6. PURE CONSCIOUSNESS IS DIVINE AND SUPREME, ALL OTHERS MEANINGLESS

7. NATURE IS ABOVE ALL, EVER EXISTING, ALL OTHERS MEANINGLESS.

8. THE CONTENT OF SO-CALLED HOLY BOOK IS NO HOLY AT ALL, AS IT PREACHES HATRED AND DESTRUCTION OF OTHER MANKIND, RELIGIOUS CONVERSIONS AND LIES OF UNCIVILIZED MATERIALS

9. CHRISTIANITY IS EQUALLY DEMONSTRATED CRUELTY, THE SO-CALLED HOLY BOOK FULL OF LIES

10. BOTH ARE NOT RELIGIONS BUT SAMPRADAYA (ILLITERATE MAN MADE, NOT BASED ON DHARMA

11. THE CULTURE OF BHARATHAM BASED ON UPANISHADS AND FULL OF  REALISATION TEXTS ARE PRODUCED BY GREAT RISHIS OF BHARATHAM

12. IN THIS MATERIALISTIC DESTRUCTIVE MINDED UNIVERSE, NO RELIGIONS COMPARABLE OR ABOVE SANATANA DHARMA OF BHARATHAM.

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Opinion : 

1.( i.n.d.i.a.)all stupid "GHAMMANDY"union of idiots, dynasty rascals, feudalists, congress, communists, latest announcement the caste census, is dangerous and divisive Hindus politics, and Muslim Christians vote bank politics, people of Bharat awake and stop this attempt by kick these parties out of politics.( nehru of congress used this Adharma since independence followed by dynasty politics indira,rajiv,italian bahu, and now her stupid son and daughter) 

1.1. Congress, a donkey party, its so called daydreaming stupid leader Rahul Vinci, Rahul Gandi, frequent visit to foreign countries, to abuse PM of this Nation, and Sanatana Dharma -exceeded all limits this time, his party and his family to be "condemned" and kicked away from politics, people should awake and realize the danger.

2. Congress & Communists destroyed this holy Nation Sanatana Dharama; the imported stupid secularism degenerated this Nation Ancient Culture and Civilization

3. Till 2014 nation was ruled by corrupt idiots,and all regions too, Dynasty rule dominated than Nation interests.

4. Brushing away mainstream population sides and Muslims and Christians become political parties vote banks.

5. Communists openly abused our ancient culture, Upanishads, Ramayana, Mahabharata, Bhagavtham and daites.

6. The communists next donkey group, latest stunt of America visit and the comedy programmed namely Kerala sabha!? these buggers destroyed Kerala in all and joining with radical Islam soon they will be eliminated, people of Kerala get up from donkey thoughts, otherwise Kerala shrink to extinct in all way.

7. Communists are danger to our civilization, their lunatic theories disappeared throughout the world, Time has come crush them, and eliminate them from our nation, they are danger to this holy nation.

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NOTE:

1. POLITICIANS (THOSE IGNORANT AND DEMONIC NATURED) ARE NOT THE AUTHORITY TO OPEN THEIR UGLY FOUL MOUTH AND UTTER NONSENSE UPON SANATHANA DHARMAM.

2. THE NONSENSE COMMENDY ALLIANCE ARE NOT THE AUTHORITY ON SANATHA DHARMAM.

3. DK, DMK. AIADMKA AND ALL NONSENSE POLITICIANS BEWARE YOU WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY WASHED OUT SOON.

4. COMMUNISTS AND CONGRESS ARE THE ENEMY TO MANKIND DESTROY THEM.

5.ALL SANATHANA DHARMAM FOLLOWERS (WHICH EVER YOUR POLITICAL INTEREST BE: YOUR POLITICAL MINDSET) TAKE A OATH THAT YOU STAND AGAINST ALL EVIL MINDSET AGAINST SANATHANA DHARMAM!!!

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######6. CRUSH THE ANTI NATIONAL ELEMENTS SUCH AS CONGRESS, COMMUNISTS, LEFT LIBERALS, URBAN NAXALS, TAMILNADU REGIONAL ANTI NATIONAL CUM ANTI SOCIAL POLITICAL PARTIES (DK, DMK, AIADMK, ALL SILLY SELF-APPOINTED CASTE GROUPS), NEVER ALLOW THESE BUGGERS RAISE THER VOICE/HEADS. CRUSH THEM UNDER YOUR FEET.

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JAI HIND
JAI BHARATHAM
VANDHE MADHARAM
BHARAT MATHA KI JAI.

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